Finding Your Frequency: Aligning Love and Personal Growth

Episode #1027

In this episode, we sit down with two TPM men to talk about what it really looks like to start a new relationship after doing the work on yourself. We unpack what changes when you show up with clarity, confidence, and your own life already in alignment.

They share honest stories about how their relationships shifted not because they followed some script or played games, but because they focused on being real, doing their inner work, and raising their own standards.

Whether you’re newly single, dating again after a divorce, or trying to figure out what a healthy relationship even looks like, this one will help you get grounded. We talk about red flags, energy, attraction, long-distance dynamics, and how being present (with your partner, your kids, and yourself) changes everything.

This isn’t about chasing “the one.” It’s about becoming someone who doesn’t need a relationship to feel whole but is open to one that adds to the life you’ve already built.

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Transcription

David 0:00
I think one analogy, like, I think Dr. Glover talks about, like, as you’re doing the work, like you’re making your own cake. And like, you know, your cake is your cake, and it could be awesome by yourself, and then your relationship is like the icing on the cake. It makes it, you know, that much better and delicious and all that. But even without that, you’ve still got your own cake you’re still complete and whole, and you’ve got enough for yourself. So you’re filling your own cup, you’ve got everything you need. And then you add the relationship on it, and then that’s all just bonus.

Doug Holt 0:41
Hey guys, welcome to another episode of the TPM Show. We are still at the TPM Ranch for the Legends event, and once again, I got two more legends for you. And today’s topic is gonna be about new relationships. So stick around. You’ll have some tips and tricks if you are entering a new relationship. Guys, thanks for being here.

Thank you for having us. I appreciate you guys being open about this subject. So how long have you two been in a new relationship?

Andrew 1:09
We’ve been in a relationship for about three months. I can’t speak for Bugs.

David 1:15
For me, it’s been since the Alpha Rising, which was November. So that’s about eight months now.

Doug Holt 1:24
I was just giving you guys a hard time because we were joking offline. The topic new relationships, two gentlemen sitting on the couch together, but I’ve already explained previously. So guys listening to this know we’re having a good time. We’re at an event. We’re gonna do some deep inner work, deep growth, and at the same time having fun together.

So new relationships are interesting for a lot of people, right? There’s a lot of trepidation with coming into a new relationship. How do you guys approach it individually?

Andrew 1:51
You know, I didn’t really think about it. I think it just came to me. I was dating, and I met Gina, and boom, just realized it. On the second date I said, Wow, I’m gonna stop talking to the other women I’m talking to. Just didn’t feel right. And I just, you know so there was no, obviously, I was looking for a relationship, but there was no conscious thought of, oh, when I find the one, or this and that, because I just wasn’t finding the one. And then all of a sudden, oh wow, this feels good. I think I have to pay attention. And I really I stopped talking to other women, and it just, it felt so good that, you know, it just made it easy, right? It made my decision very easy.

Doug Holt 2:30
Did you have a mental checklist? Because a lot of guys listening to this right, so we have a couple camps of guys. Some guys are newly single. Some guys have been served divorce papers. Some guys are in relationships that just aren’t working out really well.

Andrew 2:44
Well, I have my wants list, and I have my do-not-want list, and the do-not-want list overrides anything else, right? So there are certain things I know that if they have that type of personality or a certain character trait, that’s just not going to work. And I know it’s not for me. So in that, I think that’s guided me. The not-wants, the F-no’s, were definitely the ones that were like, okay. But it became easy.

And, you know, listen even on a wants thing, right? It’s not every single thing. It’s not, I’m like, checking off about, oh, she doesn’t fit that. Like, it doesn’t work that way. You have to accept people as they are, right? I mean, I would want someone to accept me exactly as I am, or I know it’s not going to work, sure, right? If I’m being authentic and you don’t want to be with me you want to change something about me it’s not going to work.

Doug Holt 3:25
Right. Well, it’s because you’re showing up as your authentic self, your true self.

David 3:29
I’d say for me, you know, it’s exactly what I’ve come to realize is that it’s about just being yourself. And then, you know, by being yourself, you’re either going to attract people who are attracted to you, or you’re going to repel people, but at least you’re going to have a reaction, yes like that’s who you are. And then, you know, if they like you for you, then awesome. And if they don’t, then that’s fine too.

Whereas, I think before, I was definitely much more trying to just be a people pleaser, or be kind of neutral, in which case, like, okay, I can get along with everybody, but that’s not attractive, right? People will be like, okay, you know, he’s a nice enough guy, but there’s nothing there. I’m not going to attract or repel. But if you’re looking for a relationship, you want that attraction.

And so I think for me, I was like, you know, obviously working through the program and all of that. And then I did have like a yes before, about like, you know, red flag, green flag, like sit down and think through what are those things? And then you have that percolate kind of in the back of your mind as you’re going out on dates and talking to people.

Doug Holt 4:33
What was it for you? I know you said coming out of the Alpha Rising, which is our second-year transformational experience. We don’t talk about it much on the show. So we haveThe Alpha Reset, which guys have heard about a little bit, and then the Alpha Rising. What was it about coming out of the Alpha Rising that you were like, Okay, now I’m ready?

David 4:53
Because I had gotten divorced, I guess it’s been about four and a half years, four years plus now, since I separated. And so I’ve had a lot of time to think and have perspective on what’s really important, and, you know, who do I want in my life? And after a lot of reflection, it was just very clear. I was like, oh, it’s Kate.

And so actually, I was here at the ranch, and had a call with her I remember it was on November 9 and that’s sort of where it all kicked off. So, I mean, I’d known her for quite a number of years, but just as friends, or sort of professional, as a coach. And then I was like, obvious right there. After the reflection.

Doug Holt 5:56
And I’ve spoken to Kate, as you know, obviously, and I remember what she said to me. She could tell as soon as she heard your voice, right? We talked about energy being everything. You were wearing a shirt “Energy Is Everything,” I think is what it said when we did horseback riding.

Andrew 5:56
She was going off my energy, to keep that straight.

Doug Holt 5:56
Those guys didn’t, weren’t exactly great listeners. And this idea energy is everything. You came out of a transformational experience, and you were like, boom, okay, I know what I want, and she could feel that energy and that transference in you, even though you guys had known each other for a while.

David 6:16
For sure. That’s also something for me I’d never believed in this energy and aura and all this woo-woo bullshit, right? I was like, what is that? But no, it is real, and there is something to it. But until you experience it, you don’t believe it. But now I definitely have, and definitely through the programs through the Reset and the Rising. That’s what’s been a big change for me, is that embodiment.

So you can read all the books, listen to all the podcasts, talk to all the people, but for you to truly take it on and really internalize it and integrate it and feel it is a totally different thing.

Doug Holt 7:03
Completely different.

Andrew 7:05
You know, it’s funny hearing him mention energy and bring that in. One, I’m kind of like, whoa, what are you talking about? But the second date that I went on with Gina, I dropped her off to her house, and I was driving home, and I was just like I felt this energetic connection. She was still with me. And I was like, this is a really strange feeling.

I got home, felt that through the entire night, and I started going through this thing. And it was like, wow, this is intense. I was like, I woke up in the morning and thought, I’m not gonna screw this up. It was crazy, you know. I mean, I can’t explain it, but it was just it was like, I think I rolled over in the middle of the night and was like, hey like, I was talking to myself, but I thought I was talking to her. Like, whoa. All right, got the message.

Doug Holt 7:54
Well, you’re very open and receptive. I mean, one of the things I really enjoy about you there’s many things about both you guys I really enjoy but is how open and receptive you are to new things. Quote, woo-woo things, right? Well, it’s a little bit of a juxtaposition for you. Like, if we look on paper, you’re a big guy, you’re a New Yorker, and you own a construction business, right? But that’s a testimony to you that you’re willing to be receptive. Like, okay, I got this sign. This is what I’m feeling, or what I’m receiving, or whatever you want to say about it. And this is what I’m attuned to.

Andrew 8:36
And I was not expecting it, you know? I mean, listen, I had a great time with her the first time I went out there, had a great time. Second time was amazing, but I wasn’t expecting to feel that. I was just like, whoa. Just so intense. I said, All right.

Doug Holt 8:51
I think when you tune into the frequency we talk about frequency things, not to get into vibrations as much, though we can, and frequencies but when we go through a program, we’re bettering ourselves. Our frequency or vibration changes, and the women are attuned to it, right? They’re just naturally attuned for survival reasons. More than anything, they’re attuned to it.

And so when you uplevel, or you go through an experience like the Rising or The Alpha Reset, or whatever both of you guys have been through both of those events the people in our lives, we change that frequency. It’s kind of, I always ask this question of guys listening to this and not watching this, but we’re in a room right now. I always say to guys, what music is available in this room right now? They look at me like you guys are looking at me now, but hip hop’s available. Jazz is available. All you have to do is turn a thing called a radio to the right frequency. Those waves are in here now. And that’s similar to what women are attuned to what’s our frequency?

Every time we have a woman come into the show, give a woman’s point of view, that’s what they talk about all the time. Oh, I can feel the man before he walks in the door. I can feel him on the phone. Feel the text, you know? And so for men, you guys, you’ve either gone to the frequency of Gina or you to Kate, or vice versa you’ve both turned your radios to the frequency that works for you guys. And then you found each other.

Andrew 10:16
And when you raise your consciousness, you align with people at that same frequency or higher. Generally, it’s the frequency or above, right? I mean, in this case, obviously I’m the higher frequency, but naturally.

But the synchronicities that start popping up are really cool. I’m sure you’ve experienced that too in your relationship, right? You can think about her like, Hey, I was just gonna call, and then boom she calls. And just those things, that alignment. And it’s just, it’s really cool to watch that unravel.

Doug Holt 10:47
Well, and everybody wants to be a power couple, right? Everybody wants it. And so I’ll call it my marriage one so I’m still married to the same woman, but it’s almost like we had two different marriages. Marriage one, we looked like the power couple on the outside, or going to become the power couple, but it was so disappointing. We couldn’t quite get the right frequency, or whatever it was. We loved each other, but couldn’t match.

And like in what I’ll call marriage two of ours and it’s not like we got remarried but it’s almost like two separate relationships happened between us. It’s just that we feel attuned. You know, I’ll think about her, all of a sudden I look at my phone, there’s a text message bing, pops up or vice versa. It seems like one of those really bad rom-coms, you know, that you look at like, this shit doesn’t happen, man. But it does.

Andrew 11:34
How much do you attribute that to dropping into your heart space?

Doug Holt 11:40
I think it’s not everything, but most of it. I think it’s dropping into my heart space. It’s also being in alignment, right? But you can’t be in alignment if you’re not in your heart space and caring and being on the same page.

I’m very blessed that my wife does the work, right? I know Kate does. I think Gina does. And in doing that, I’m trying to better myself for myself, first and foremost, then secondarily, for my family, third, for the world. My wife’s doing the same thing. So we’re both on mission for what we’re trying to do in the world. And you guys both are aligned with that, and your partners are too.

David 12:19
And that’s what’s been nice about having someone who’s on, obviously, their own journey, and I’m on my own journey, but we’re also on our own journeys together. And so actually, she was looking at my bookcase, and she’s like, This is not the normal bookcase of a 48-year-old man. I have a lot of, you know, self-help books and that kind of stuff. And that’s what I’m into, and it’s great that she’s super supportive of that.

Andrew 12:48
So I have a question for you. Starting up a new relationship obviously, you coach 1000s of men with the retreats and trips being frequent or whatever. What is I don’t know if it’s the best way to handle it but there’s gonna be a point where they’re gonna say, Well, wait a minute, you’re going away a lot, kind of thing, right? And I get it. You know, Gina supports what I’m doing. She fully supports it, right? At some point, she’s probably like, You’re going away again.

So what do you think? How would you want to handle that kind of situation? Or what’s the best tactic with that? Just say, hey, look, this is something for me. I need to do this. Or not do every single one of them. I mean, that’s always an option, but that doesn’t really align with me.

Doug Holt 13:30
I think that’s a key point right there, and I’ll share transparently. Last year I did so many Alpha Resets, and some of the coaches had to drop out for whatever reasons. I wasn’t supposed to lead all The Brotherhood events I ended up leading all of them, and the Inner Circle event too, right?

So previously, and that’s when my wife said, Hey, this is too much, right? And her reason for it being too much was, we have young kids a five-year-old. So she’s like, I’m solo parenting, and you’re gone for almost more weeks than you’re here. And so we sat down, and we had a conversation, okay, what’s reasonable?

Conversely, she loves that I’m here with you guys right now, because she goes, You come back filled up. This is your mission. And so what I do here, Andrew, is we talk about what events are coming up. There are certain ones where I’m going to this one, like, this is happening, because this is what I’m here for. And there are other ones where I’m looking at it, or not.

When I come to this event, as an example, I set her up for success. So, okay, she’s solo parenting. Dave’s got young kids too, about the same age. And there are certain things that just make that house run smoother, right? Okay, pick up, okay, what food needs to be in there? I just set her up so it’s a little less stressful.

And then I’m also something I found out that’s really important to my wife is that I communicate with her while I’m on the trip, right? Because a lot of times we have a lot of fun on these trips, right? There’s a ton of personal growth, but we all still have a lot of fun. And people only see the pictures of the fun parts, sure. It’s all fun. But I mean, they see us going out to extravagant dinners, or zip lining, or today horseback riding through the mountains, and that looks amazing. What they don’t see is the deep inner work that we’re doing and bettering ourselves. Type two fun.

So I share that. When I share that, she gets it. And then there’s one more piece to this that I think is incredibly important I also make plans to do things with her. And last year, I didn’t do it as well as I had previously. And I think that brought some of the conflict, because I think she felt left out. Like, Oh, you’re planning all these amazing trips. You’re going to all these great places. You spend all this time planning these events for these guys. What about me?

I think that was really what it was. And so when I started planning things like, I took her after Germany and Prague, which was so much fun. I flew my family into Germany, and we went through Austria. And I planned the whole thing. She didn’t know where we were staying, which is unlike her, and she loved it.

Andrew 16:11
I like the thing about, you know, when you do come home, they’re gonna see that different, because we just filled our cups, a whole new energy and revived. And they’re probably like, you got to do that more often.

David 16:22
And I think it’s also good though, I mean, for them as well. So, like, one analogy I heard recently, which I hadn’t heard before, was like the tale of the mermaid and the lad, where it’s like you live in two different worlds. And you need, you know, the mermaid is obviously more comfortable in the water, but she can come to the surface. The lad is more comfortable on the surface, but can go in the water.

Doug Holt 16:42
Hey guys, I just want to share something with you. I’m sure we can both agree that in order to fix something, you need to know what’s broken. And not only need to know what’s broken, but a step-by-step methodology on how you can fix it. That’s the easiest way to do it, right? Otherwise, you’re going to be toiling with things.

That’s why I created a free training. A training that not only shows you how you got to where you are where your relationship is missing that love, respect, admiration, and even intimacy that it used to have but how you get it back. How do you retain that, where your wife’s looking at you the same way she used to look at you when she said, “I do”?

I don’t know about you, but for me, when my wife looks at me like I’m her man, I feel like I can conquer the world. And I want that for you. Simply go over to thepowerfulman.com/scales. That’s thepowerfulman.com/scales, and I have a free video training for you. You can just click play and see if this resonates for you.

Now, back to the podcast.

David 17:45
You know, you need to have your own time apart in your own worlds, and then when you do come together, it’s magical. But you know, there’s a finite amount of time that you can be together. Otherwise, this is gonna suffer. So you need to have that time together and apart.

Andrew 18:02
Well, which is I mean, you have somewhat of a long-distance relationship too. So yes, you’re getting that regularly, right? Which is challenging, but probably awesome at the same time.

David 18:13
Exactly. And then also, I have kids half the time. So juggling all of that is difficult, and it’s just trying to make the most of all the opportunities, and then being very intentional.

That’s actually one of the things I really love about Kate that she’s extremely super busy, but when she’s with you, it’s 100% focus. And so her time is limited, but when she’s with you, it’s 100%. She’s not doing five things at once. And so I’ve learned from her that it’s like, okay, when I’m with the kids, 100% with the kids. With her, 100% with her. By myself, focus on me, and not trying to do too many things at one time.

Doug Holt 18:54
I love that you’re talking about in coaching so many guys codependency. I see that all the time. And what it looks like, though, it doesn’t look codependent. It looks like fear, right?

The guy’s afraid to go do what he wants or go to the event because he’s worried about the backlash, so he sits down on the couch and turns on Netflix. She’s afraid to go or doesn’t know what she wants to do, so she sits down on the couch and they watch Netflix. And again, there’s nothing wrong with watching Netflix and movies I watch them all the time but it’s that, “Let’s just sit on the couch and watch a movie because we’re both unfulfilled,” right?

And a lot of marriages get caught in that cycle where people aren’t willing to go out and do what they want.

David 19:35
I think it’s back to what we started talking about being your authentic self. You know, if you’re gonna say, “I really want to do this thing,” be ready for that backlash and have that, like, “Okay, I hear you. You don’t like this or that,” and you can go back and forth versus just shutting it down and saying, “Okay, let’s just do the simple thing, not talk about it.”

You know, no one’s gonna complain if we watch whatever show’s on. That’s something we can both agree on, but it’s not really what you both want.

Andrew 20:03
Sure. And presence is such a powerful thing when you’re truly there, and you’re not ever picking up your cell phone, looking at who texted you or what’s going on. It’s just amazing.

It makes them feel whole. And even your kids, like you mentioned putting full energy into the kids, not doing anything else. I’ve been working on the presence thing for a long time. And I shouldn’t say working, because I do it very well. You do. I will not, even having a conversation, click on my phone or look at it, right? I just say, you know, I find it very disrespectful. I don’t like when other people do it.

Doug Holt 20:35
I think to both your points and coming back to you, Dave, as well I think one of the key things men can do, especially in new relationships but even old ones, is ask: “How can we make this work?”

Not “Can I do this?” or, if you get pushback… Here’s the thing: A lot of guys enter the program, and they don’t tell their partner that they joined TPM, right? Because they’re scared of the backlash.

Whereas guys that are successful might say, “Hey, I want to join this program. This is the investment.” And the wife’s natural reaction is almost always no, right? Because she’s scared that they’re not in a good place, or whatever happens.

And then what I found in my relationship is: “Okay, I’d really like to join this. How can we make it work?” My wife’s mastered this with me, by the way. She is so good: “How can we make this happen?”

And that’s where it’s like, “Okay, oh, you know what I could do? I could go to Prague. I can fly you guys out to Austria to meet me, and we can do our family vacation on the tail end. Is that good?” And then, cool we found a win for everybody.

Andrew 21:37
You know, I was talking to Justin a couple days ago about something he brought up. He said totally unrelated about my issues of coming here, just with work and everything else going on. He said, “Think about the rocking chair test. How would you feel later on?”

I was like, Huh. And you relate that to this I mean, I’m thinking about Napa Valley in November, right? And Gina’s birthday happens to fall right in that time frame. And I said, You know what? I think I’m just going to take her out for that, and maybe I’ll fly out for the IC part of it. Because if I look back later on and believe me, I’m going to hate not being there but if I look back later on, I’m gonna say, Wow, I missed her birthday, and I really should have been there.

You have to just weigh what it feels like to you, and I wouldn’t feel right leaving. You know, I wish I could do it all. I’d fly her out there, but I don’t know how much time I’d be able to spend with her.

Doug Holt 22:24
Man, that’s just it, right? Whether it’s a new relationship or you guys are in a transition. I think a lot of guys listening to this… Well, I guess let me ask you I hear this conversation so much that I feel like I know what it is.

Do you feel like the man that you are today is better suited I want to say this very respectfully of your exes the man you are today is better suited to find a more ideal woman for you?

Andrew 22:57
Oh, absolutely.

David 22:58
100 percent. I think about this a lot. Like, I have no regrets or ill feelings about my past relationship. That was where I was at the time and where she was at the time, and, you know, we fit at that time where I was. Yes, but where I’m at now, that wouldn’t have worked. But that wasn’t me back then, and she’s also not the same person she was then either.

So that’s the difficult thing with relationships you meet, and obviously there’s some connection, because you kick off. And then as you grow individually, are you still able to grow together as a couple as well? Because you need to. You know, it is three things in the relationship: there’s each of you, plus the relationship is its own entity of itself.

Andrew 23:46
For me, the person I was then in my last relationship I know it would not have attracted Gina into my life. Just the way I was showing up, it wouldn’t have happened. Now, previously, 20 years before that, maybe. But in that period of time, no. And had I been showing up the right way, it may not have been the right timing for her, because she had to go through her journey too, right? So it just worked out, you know?

David 24:12
Well, that’s the thing. Timing is everything. So, Kate you know, we’ve known each other for a while. And actually, as we were talking with each other, most of the time we were talking on the phone, and then I did meet her twice in person.

She lives up in New York, and so it was one time I was driving to see a friend up in Canada. So I was driving past her area. I was like, “Hey, I’ll be coming through, maybe we could grab a bite to eat.” And so we met in person. And, you know, I was kind of laying out some feelers to see, sort of, is there anything out there?

At that time, there was some chemistry, but not a lot. She was going through her stuff. I was still going through my stuff. And then we met again, like six months or a year after that. And that time also was not a good meeting in terms of the outcome, because she was, I think, in a different space.

She was super excited about where she was, because she had just moved back to New York. She was like, “Oh, New York is great. Would you ever move to New York?” And I was like, “No, definitely not. New York is not for me,” because this was a discussion I had with my ex before, because she was all about going back to New York.

So that was one of the few times I was very clear about what I wanted. And so she’s like, “Oh, I guess this is not gonna happen.” And then, once we came to a different place, then it worked. It’s all timing.

Doug Holt 25:41
It is a lot of timing. And it’s also you know, imagine what would happen if you weren’t doing the work. Even if you have the quote “right timing,” you would have missed each other. That’s what’s always interesting to me.

Like, if I ever become single well, this is not very fair, because I always have been doing the work, I always will but that’s the sure way of finding. You’re raising your stock. You’re raising your personal value on the marketplace of the world. Your stock is just going up, and you’re gonna attract better and better people into your life. Romantic relationships, friendships, bonds they’re only gonna get better the more you do the work.

David 26:19
I think one analogy like, I think Dr. Glover talks about as you’re doing the work, you’re making your own cake. And your cake is your cake, and it can be awesome by itself. And then your relationship is like the icing on the cake. It makes it that much better and delicious and all that.

But even without that, you still have your own cake. You’re still complete and whole, and you’ve got enough for yourself. You’re filling your own cup. You’ve got everything you need. And then you add the relationship on it, and then that’s all just 

Doug Holt 26:49
Bonus. Reminds me of that analogy: “Oh, you want your cake and eat it too.” Like, who doesn’t? I don’t want cake to just look at it.

Andrew 26:57
I was gonna say it was like my position. That’s not going to sound very well.

Doug Holt 27:04
Well, awesome, guys. So any parting advice you’d give for a guy that might be going through a transitional relationship, finds himself single? What would you like to say to your former selves, if you would, or to somebody else?

Andrew 27:18
I would say, quarantine yourself. Just do the work for yourself. Don’t do it for any other person. Because a lot of people get caught up in trying to do it for someone else, and it’s the wrong reason.

It’s all about within you. Every change you need to make should be a change that you want to make not for somebody else, not what they want for you. It’s what you want. Your unique journey. We all have a unique journey. My vision will never look like your vision, right? It’s just not. I mean, as much as we might want the same similar things, it’s gonna be totally different. So I agree.

David 27:47
I agree. And the same thing just focus, focus on yourself. Especially with the apps or things these days, it’s not about trying to find the best picture of you or what’s gonna be attractive. Just find the stuff that captures who you are, right?

Like, if you are a guy who likes to hunt and fish, then cool that’s you. But if it’s not you, then don’t put that out there just to attract whatever. Because you want to attract, like we talked about before, someone who’s attracted to the real you.

So it’s just: find out who you really are, and then put that out there and see what happens. Otherwise, you know, I spent a lot of time swiping and looking and looking versus attracting. If you just put it out there, then what’s attracted to you will find you.

Andrew 28:34
That’s a good point too, because a lot of people may not even know who they are anymore. 100%. They’re just so far lost, trying to be someone for somebody else, that they don’t know what they even like anymore.

Doug Holt 28:46
Go to The Alpha Reset, right? Or guys that think they know, and then all of a sudden, “Oh, I’ve been lying to myself.” This is society putting so much crap on us.

David 28:56
It’s all marketing, right? Someone’s like, “Oh, be this guy. Be the Iron Man. Be this, that, whatever it is,” versus doing the inner work and trying to figure out being real. Like, I like to do whatever it is bowling, I don’t know, whatever your thing is but versus whatever is the cool, hip thing to do.

Doug Holt 29:13
I agree, because you want to surround yourself, like us here. You want to surround yourself around people who like doing the same things, like you for you. Because otherwise, you bait and switch, right? And all of a sudden  I hear this all the time too, where women feel like they’ve been bait and switched. It’s been a bait and switch. You were one way, and then we got married, and now you’re totally different.

And when you’re you, you can just authentically be you anywhere. Well, I thank you guys both for doing the work, continuing to do the work, and being legends, passing it down to other men that are coming after you, and just making sure that everybody’s on the right path. You guys both exemplify that. And here we are in day one, guys. So lots more fun to be had.

David 29:57
And that’s why thanks. Thanks a lot to you, Doug, and to all the guys at TPM. I mean, how you do it with so much energy, just constantly. I know you’ve been doing all these podcasts and everything else. I mean, I had to take a nap earlier today, but no. We really appreciate all that you and the rest of the guys at TPM have done and still do.

Doug Holt 30:18
Thank you.

Andrew 30:20
Thank you. It’s always a pleasure. I love being in this room.

Doug Holt 30:24
With you. Likewise. Well, gentlemen, as always say, in the moment of insight, take massive action. And whether you find yourself recently single, or maybe you’re married, you can take these same tips, guys, and apply them. Maybe it’s your marriage 2.0, like I’ve shared with you openly about my marriage. My wife and I loved each other, we just couldn’t find ourselves to each other. It was the weirdest thing.

And marriage 2.0 is because both of us did the work, and it started with me doing the work. I had to go out and find the resources and do the work, and put myself out there for us to come back together. That’s what leadership is not waiting for her, but actually taking the first steps. So take that first step, whatever it is for you. Be your authentic self, do what these gentlemen both said, and you’re gonna find the right place to land.

We’ll see you next time on The Powerful Man Show.